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High altitude alpine forest with some morning clouds still lingering around the trees.
Testing some customised Xfrog trees that I've been working on.


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Created in: Vue 11 Infinite
Post Production: Photoshop CS6
Render Time: 05:23:56 (1920 x 1080) with a Quad-Core i7-3710QM CPU with 16GB RAM
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e-on Software's Picture of the Day on Wednesday 27th February 2013.

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Wonderful :love:
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:iconpenboa:
Thank you very much indeed.
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:iconbossie-boots:
My pleasure my friend :love:
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`priteeboy Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The trees look very good :) Maybe try to get some more diversity in the models, or at least their rotation and size when being populated as I can see clusters of identical-looking trees, particularly in the left foggy area ;) But the tree models themselves are very realistic (Vue normally doesn't have great looking conifers so Xfrog is the way to go I would agree...not that I have it) and the fog looks great :)
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:iconpenboa:
Thanks for the feedback and suggestions.
Vue only really has a very small number of high quality trees.
Maybe we get Xfrog as a Vue plugin one day!
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`priteeboy Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I heard those who actually have Xfrog can load the Xfrog tree species (bought separately so you only get what you will use) can use them in Xfrog the same way Vue does with its own trees. You can "generate" an infinite number of different models of the same tree species, and import whatever ones you want into Vue. That must be really cool to have, but it's an expensive software and I've spent enough already :doh:
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The Xfrog plant models are fully parametric, but you can only generate different variations of a tree species by manually changing parameters in the Xfrog software, whereas in Vue, SolidGrowth variations are generated automatically. So to generate an infinite number of different models of the same species you would need infinite time and patience;)

Getting Xfrog plant models setup in Vue so that they work EcoSystems is also quite time consuming, and because Vue saves the model within the scene file, unlike Terragen 2 which links to the model, the scene filesize rapidly becomes unmanageably large. In addition Terragen 2 seems to render Xfrog plants much faster than Vue. In Vue's favour, it can generate a mask per material, so you can change all the leaf colours post render, whereas Terragen 2 doesn't have render passes (yet).

The main advantage of XfrogPlants over other plant "generators" is they are botanically accurate, so if you want to create a scene from a real location you can use the correct species and potentially achieve a very realistic result.

I upgraded my Terragen 2 + 1300 XfrogPlants bundle to the Xfrog Volume Bundle with Xfrog 3.5 in their last sale, they also included Vue, C4D, and modo formats at no additional cost.
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`priteeboy Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh, that's a little different to what I expected. But still, some control is better than none. I'd like to give it a try and see what alien-looking plants I could come up with but making some dramatic changes to the plants parameters and leaf materials :plotting: Although I've one that a lot in Vue already (at least they don't need to be as realistic :XD:)

Yes I noticed only relatively recently that the biggest cause of file size expansion happened after creating an ecosystem of trees in Vue, especially since the newer, more detailed tree files are fairly big (not on their own, but if you want 5 different species in there it adds up :faint:) Terragen I notice doesn't "update" as frequently as Vue does. But when they do they make a tremendous leap. Terragen had planetary-scale renders and spectral clouds for a couple of years before Vue did. I still chose Vue though because it's easier to use ^^;
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:wow: very nice work!
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